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Canada’s Religious Left?
By Ian
The federal NDP just wrapped up their 50th anniversary convention in Vancouver last weekend, celebrating their historic achievement of 103 seats in the last election, the most ever won by a “socialist” party (they were thinking about removing this term from their constitution, but decided it needed more committee work) in Canada, although not enough to prevent a Harper majority.
At this convention, members of the NDP’s Faith and Social Justice committee got together and decided they’d start promoting themselves more, starting with this video that tries to establish the Religious Left in Canada as an alternate voice to the typical right-wing Christian nationalists.
I still don’t think I can support the religious left.
On the positive side, their good allies against regressive policies pushed by more conservative religious. They generally support things that I agree with like drug policy, gay marriage and women’s choice.
However, they’re still wrong.
The blind-spot in their critical thinking abilities that allows them to have faith without evidence leaves room for other erroneous and irrational thinking. So I can’t trust them to always arrive at the same conclusions as I would.
Belief in God necessitates moral absolutism, since their higher power has arbitrary control over what’s good and bad. Just because the religious left tends to be more progressive in what’s good, doesn’t mean that those positions were arrived at rationally.
For example, in the current appeals case regarding Ontario’s prostitution laws, do those who identify as the religious left arrive at their conclusions in the case through reasoning based on harm reduction and evidence from other nation’s policies, or will they follow more liberally-interpreted Biblical principles? Similarly, can I rely on those who believe life is sacred to support a woman’s right to abortion services – many Catholics in the Liberal Party were members of the unofficial “Pro-Life” caucus and routinely voted anti-choice. Will the religious left support ending funding to Catholic schools in Ontario, Alberta, and Saskatchewan and private religious schools in Alberta and BC?
And if they use reason and evidence to reach their conclusions, why refer to them as religious or faith-based? Why not call it the “Reason and Social Justice” committee?
While I can appreciate those who end up with similar conclusions and politics as myself, I do think that the process of reaching those conclusions matters.
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about 8 months ago
“Just because the religious left tends to be more progressive in what’s good, doesn’t mean that those positions were arrived at rationally.”
Exactly. The reasoning process from “my god says I must support a socially democratic state therefore I support a socially democratic state” is no more rational than “my god says I must prohibit homosexual therefore I will prohibit homosexuality”. Even if the conclusion to the former is more rational than the latter the reasoning underlying it is still gibberish.
I’m also skeptical about how “progressive” on some social issues the religious left is. They may not be marching on Parliament hill against gay marriage but the religious left is not the ones pushing the envelope and giving those issues precedence either.
about 8 months ago
I think they lost a serious opportunity by waffling and not getting rid of ‘socialism’. If they want to be the party of the left, they have to appeal to the centre. It’s been noted in the media that the Cons specifically targeted immigrant communities… many of which tend to be more religious than the average. I’d say this embracing of faith is a good political move for the NDP. They tend to get the woo vote anyway. Rational has never been an NDP strength, its the party of emotion.
about 8 months ago
Wow, I didn’t know about this. I worked for an NDP candidate during the federal election, and if I had known about the existence of a Faith and Social Justice committee, I would have had a lot of questions:
Why does a political part need a faith committee?
Why does Bill Blaikie think it is important to tell the Canadian public that “there’s another way to think about religion and politics”?
What does bill Blaikie mean by the “tradition” of “the prophetic calling to account of the powers”?
Why does a political party need to “operate from a faith perspective”?
In the video, Carolyn Greve is wearing a crucifix: a signal that for her at least, religion and politics are “intertwined.”
Jean Chrétien maintained that he kept his religion separate from his politics. All politicians should follow this practise.
The Ontario provincial election is scheduled for October of this year. I will have many questions about the NDP l Faith and Social Justice committee and will definitely ask whether the provincial NDP will support ending funding to Catholic schools in Ontario,
about 8 months ago
It’s worth noting that most sub-committees don’t necessarily represent all positions of the party. consider the Socialist Committee that would have an NDP government nationalize major industries.
about 8 months ago
So anyone who fails to agree with any conclusion you might reach is exhibiting “erroneous and irrational thinking”? Good to know that.
However, I do agree with your main point. Atheists should resist any temptation to welcome religion into politics, even when it happens to be aligned with their party of choice.
about 8 months ago
This sort of news to me has a good and bad to it.
Starting with the bad; obviously more religious nonsense being pumped into our political system is not a good thing (in my opinion).
The good is that hopefully this will challenge certain atheists (usually the left leaning ones) ideas that religion in politics is solely owned by the right. Religion can infect any part of the political spectrum, and that we need to stop making automatic assumptions about people based on what political stripe they wear.
There are many conservative atheists and liberal atheists, as there are many fundamentalist right and left wing people. In my experience there has always been a tacit understanding among atheists/secularists that the left is all secularists and does not need to be challenged and the right is full of fundamentalist Christians that there is no hope for. I hope people now start to challenging the religious left and reach out to the secular right.