Television

“Attack of the Atheists”?

Yesterday, April 5,  I received this announcement from CFI Canada

CFI’s Justin Trottier will be on Byline on Sun TV tonight (Thursday) between 9-10pm Eastern Time to discuss the effect atheism has on countries. Host Brian Lilley will argue that countries like Canada are doing well because it is a Judeo Christian country, whereas places like China have a lot of problems because they are atheistic. We will, CFI is told, also talk about ‘militant atheism’ (atheists trying to convert others to their lack of belief).

I was not at home to watch Byline last night because I was enjoying an evening with three wonderful people, who are, like me, members of CFI.  Fortunately, I was able to access the video of the segment.  As CFI’s message says, “Enjoy”!

If, as Brian Lilley says, atheists are on the attack, let’s “float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.”

VisionTV releases Godless documentary

Over the last year a film crew was seen around atheist events and meetups in Toronto. They filmed meetings and interviewed lots of different people for a documentary on atheism. Specifically, they focused on the congregational and activist aspects of new atheism in Canada.

The interviewees and meeting coordinators tell me the questions were good and there seemed to be an attempt to accurately capture what this specific brand of atheism is all about so I have high hopes.

Part 1: June 6 (today) 10pm ET, Part 2: June 7 10pm ET.

I can’t find a streaming link but I will post it here once/if available.

Diluting Homeopathy

Well, I’m not much for watching TV… since I don’t have one, and even if I did, it probably wouldn’t be the CBC, but if its an internet war they want…. well now that I can do… saddle up and lets ride into town… or rather if you are so inclined to rational rebuttal… make your voice heard on Homeopathy, and put your money where your molars is.

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Secular Television

A long while back there was a lecture at the CFI about secular TV and a huge fight broke out during the question period, and later, about the idea of everything that is non-religious being considered secular. I bring it up again because I think there were some interesting points that came up:

  • Sports are secular television

An argument was made that all television that isn’t inherently religious is essentially a “secular” program. To me, this seems sort of obvious. There are shows that don’t talk about God (police/detective shows, decorating shows, Holmes Inspection!…etc) and there are shows with atheist characters (Dexter, Lee Adama, Mr. Big from Sex in the City, Perry Cox, Jen from Dawson’s Creek…etc). Additionally there are shows that make blatant fun of religion such as South Park, the Simpsons… etc. If you consider these shows to be “secular” TV then there is actually a disproportionately high number of secular shows in comparison with religious shows. If this is the case then people saying that we need more secular television are simply… wrong.

The other side of the picture are people who essentially want atheist propaganda channels much like there are religious propaganda channels, and I think this is a waste of time and effort. Besides the fact that every atheist show proposal I’ve seen has been totally crap, I don’t think that it would help advance the movement in any way. Most of these shows interview atheists and look at what is happening in the atheist movement… but why would anyone want to see that? It is probably more desirable to have more openly atheist characters who are likable in mainstream television than to have some cable access show that no one will watch.

I would also like to point out that most evangelical churches *do* see most mainstream television as being inherently atheistic and secular. Mainstream shows have premarital sex, drug use, abortions, homosexuality…etc. The L Word isn’t exactly wholesome christian television.

  • Is atheism simply a supernatural standpoint or is it associated with an ethical base that needs to be represented?

For “atheism”, specifically, to be represented on TV more often it means that there needs to be some sort of universal definition for atheism. If atheism is just the lack of belief in God and there isn’t any god or religion in some TV shows then I think it is fair to call them secular and atheistic. Are secular themes enough to call something atheistic or do people WANT to see identifiable atheist television and what would that look like?

For there to be a show about atheists I can only thing of two ways: a) a show where people interview atheists, or the follow an atheist around, or they do like atheist home-remodeling, or they follow around a bunch of atheists doing good deeds… so reality television that no one would watch or b) a show based around a universal atheistic principle… But besides there being “no god” what is a universal atheistic principle? Perhaps it could be a show about making the most out of today and showing that it isn’t just hedonistic? I’m not really sure.

  • Atheists want us to feel sorry for them all the time and when we say they’re not being oppressed, they get pissed.

Yeah… I’m gonna say it: A lot of people went into this talk with a predetermined notion that this guy was going to say that atheists are not represented sufficiently in mainstream media and when he didn’t – they got pissed off. There is nothing like going into a room of people who think they’re the underdog and then telling them that they’re not. But I think it’s true. I’m thinking about the shows that I watch on a regular basis and none of them are inherently religious. Once in a while there might be a “well we just have to pray to God that it works out” line or a stereotypical Christian wedding reception – but nothing out of the ordinary for regular Canadian/American society.

The one problem I can find with atheist representation in mainstream media is something I’ve already alluded to: the atheists always seem like the mean/sociopathic/disconnected people of the shows. Just look at the people I listed:

Dexter – murderous sociopath, Lee Adama – I guess he wasn’t so bad, Mr. Big from Sex in the City – grumpy cynical old man, Perry Cox – alcoholic asshole, Jen from Dawson’s Creek – the one with all the “problems”…

So yeah…It would be nice to see atheistic characters that are openly atheist while being the good guy.

(I realize I use bullet points and numbering a lot – it helps me formulate my thoughts…)