Good Without God bookclub

After nearly thirty people attended our God Delusion book club last month, we were wondering whether we’d get another large turnout this month with a less known and read book – Greg Epstein’s Good Without God.

Well, as luck would have it, we ended up with nearly twenty people this time, again stretching out ability to manage a small discussion over a large group. There were several new faces this time, and a few returners.

Most liked the book, finding it a good description of humanism, and one went so far as saying it was among the most precise summations of his worldview he had ever read and he planned to email Epstein personally thanking him for the book.

Others lacked the same enthusiasm, with one suggesting that the humanism Epstein proposed lacked a core axiom like libertarianism’s fundamental right to the property of the self. Another found it lacking in empiricism.

We also found a bit of disagreement on the necessity for humanist chaplains, and some felt ill at ease over his description of humanism as a faith.

But it wouldn’t be a freethinkers book club if we all agreed on everything, so with some moderation, we successfully teased out a few counterpoints to most ideas.

Most recognized the need for humanists to do more. We lamented that our best quality – our rejection of authority – often works against ourselves whenever we try to build institutions of humanism. We often try so hard not to be like the religious in our actions that we have difficulty finding volunteers or donations to build our capacity.

Regardless though, many were inspired by the book, and are interested in promoting a good life beyond religion.

The timing of this book club works really well as tomorrow morning the BC Humanists are meeting with the Humanists of the North Puget Sound (from Washington state) at the Peace Arch Park for our annual picnic. For anyone else who’s in the area and wants to drop by, you can find the details here, but basically we’re meeting on the US side at 11 am for food, friends, and a couple games.

Harry Potter = Jesus Christ?

I don’t really know what to do with this request that landed in my inbox, so I’m just going to post it here for you to either take seriously or mock relentlessly. If anyone actually reads this, email me and I may post your review here.

I’m now working on my PHD in comparative literature, and close to publishing the book "Jesus Potter Harry Christ", which is mostly about viewing Jesus as a literary creation through the lens of Harry Potter, a similar but obviously fictional character. It’s a thorough, non-threatening introduction of the literary (non-historical) Jesus Christ aimed at the general public. It’s at about 140,000words and I’m launching in next month.

(Here’s a link to the summary and overview page: http://www.jesuspotterharrychrist.com.)

To promote the launch, I decided to sponsor a $500 writing contest ("Harry Potter, Christ Figure?") based on short reviews of the book, and give a pre-publication PDF copy out to anybody who wants to participate. I’m hoping you’ll tell your readers about the contest and opportunity to win $500, or at least tell them where they can go get a free copy of a brand new book before it’s released.

I’m also looking for bloggers or authors who’ll agree to blurb/review the book. Your review would be prominently featured on my website with a link, which I’ll be promoting quite hard. I’d also be happy to support you in any of your recent projects; my blogwww.holyblasphemy.net is getting a lot of traffic these days.

Even if you don’t care to get involved, I hope you’ll pick up a free review copy of the book for your own personal interest.
The review copy will be made available on the following page in about a month, which is when I will actively start seeking feedback.

http://www.jesuspotterharrychrist.com/2010/05/reviewers/

The contest page is here: http://www.jesuspotterharrychrist.com/2010/11/harrypotter-christfigure-writingcontest/

If you’d like to give a brief comment or feedback to put on the site before it starts getting heavy traffic, just email me.

Sincerely,

Derek Murphy

The Salvation Army destroys books

An interesting email exchange was passed along to me that I’ve been given permission to publicize regarding books that are sold at Salvation Army Thrift Stores.

Over the course of the exchange (which lasts several months and includes many non-responses from the Army), it is admitted that the Salvation Army occasionally censors donated books that they receive that do not fit their Christian worldview. The censored books are then destroyed.

I’m not going to post the entire exchange here, or give out names or emails, but here’s some choice snippets (Salvation Army spokespeople in bold):

The Salvation Army store staff do their best to screen books so that we don’t sell books of a pornographic nature, or those that promote promiscuity.
If you find a book that you feel falls into the above categories, please don’t hesitate to bring it to the attention of the store Manager.
Regarding books that describe various philosophies on creation and evolution, non-Christian philosophies and beliefs, etc. we do sell those, as long as they don’t promote non-Christian beliefs. Again, if you see something that should not be on the shelf, please address it with the Store Manager, who will be happy to remove it if it’s unsuitable.

Does this mean that you will be more vigilant about Shakespeare, Greek mythology, or similar classical literature?
- No, because to meet the criteria which you are advocating, we would have to have staff with a thorough knowledge of every author, their opinions, theologies, writing styles etc and that is possible. We do the best we can with the resources and knowledge that we have available to us. We realize that our system is far from perfect,but we try to screen the books at our warehouse and again at store level, but it is difficult because of the enormous volume we process.

What books (besides pornography and promiscuity) are removed from your shelves?
Books that promote any religion other than Christianity. Certain authors who we know use bad language, explicit sex or violence in their books. Again, I repeat our knowledge in this area is limited so it is highly probable that we miss some unsuitable books.

What happens to those books? Are they put in a place where others may read them?
Destroyed, not re-circulated.

Of course the Army is not known for it’s progressive ideas, including about homosexuality:

For this reason such practices [as homosexuality], if unrenounced, render a person ineligible for Salvation Army soldiership, in the same way that unrenounced heterosexual misconduct is a bar to soldiership. The Army recognises the strength of feeling about sexual identity, and the difficulty many find in expressing this identity in keeping with scriptural standards.

However, it believes firmly in the power of God’s grace to enable the maintenance of a lifestyle pleasing to him, including a lifestyle built upon celibacy and self-restraint for those who will not or cannot marry. No one who yields to the lordship of Christ and who undertakes by his grace to live in accordance with the teaching of Scripture is excluded from Christian fellowship and service in the Army.

So when donating at Christmas, or giving away used clothes, books, or other belongings, consider Value Village or other thrift stores which donate portions of their profits to secular charities.

Christopher diCarlo and Infidel Book Club

I’m in the midst of a busy few days here in Vancouver. Last night Dr. Christopher diCarlo, philosopher and 2008 Canadian Humanist of the Year, and today was the inaugural CFI Vancouver book club, which featured a discussion about the book Infidel.

Christopher diCarlo

AfricaPosterThe talk last night was great and attended by about 50-60 people. Dr. diCarlo was as engaging and humorous as the talks I saw him give in Toronto for the CFI Canada conference that happened this past spring.

His talk began with a discussion about how earlier in his teaching career he confronted a Native Canadian student who disagreed with the notion that we are all African (meaning that we all descend from ancestors in Africa) in one of his critical thinking classes. The confrontation climaxed when diCarlo admitted that the science was right and his ancestors beliefs were not.

After the student teamed up with some other anti-evolutionist Christians, diCarlo’s academic career got into hot water, despite his reputation as one of Ontario’s top lecturers.

He has taken “We are all African” as a personal motto, and is now using it to challenge cherished beliefs (he even has t-shirts for sale with the quote on it). The remainder of his lecture thus focussed on the evidence for an African descent of humanity and the social ramifications of it.

The bit on social and political ramifications was definitely the most intriguing bit of his lecture. By stating that we are all African, diCarlo argues that racism and most ethnic conflicts are the result of a failure to understand this commonality. He admitted that he wasn’t so naive as to think that if everyone got evolution that no more wars would happen (there are always battles over resources, etc.), but he did suggest that most conflict arises from these unnecessary and superficial differences that we see.

I think you can read more of his thoughts on this through an article in Humanist Perspectives which is available online.

I was helping organize carpools to the reception, so I missed most of the Q&A (the video will be available eventually through CFI Canada’s YouTube page), but one highlight I heard was a discussion about what he called HUAS in one of his books. HUAS stands for head-up-ass-syndrome where the sufferer begins by sticking their fingers in their ears, then covers their eyes, then eventually bends so far over that his or her head is firmly up the anus. He then stated that sometimes we need to be a pain in the ass when we pull those people out, and for some reason they don’t really know shit.

After the Q&A we adjourned to a ticketed reception at Moose’s Down Under. About 25 people showed up for drinks and appetizers with Dr. diCarlo and his wife (who has a broken ankle from the giant goose statue in Wawa, Ontario).

Infidel book club

infidel

Eleven people showed up for our first book club today, including a few people who hadn’t been out to any events yet (except for the talk last night). We discussed Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s book Infidel (saving her new book Nomad for a few more months down the road after people have gotten through this one) for about an hour and a half.

The discussion was great and there were lots of questions about the level of assimilation that should be pushed on new immigrants and whether multiculturalism or the melting pot philosophy is more successful.

For many of us, this book was our first introduction into the Muslim world, and I think it shocked a lot of us out of a somewhat cultural relativistic attitude.

There was also a lot of frustration about the left-wing’s apologetics with regards to Islamic practices and it was suggested that many people are ignorant of the fact that honour killing and genital mutilations are happening at an alarming rate in their own backyard. There was also a suggestion that even though Hirsi Ali is working with the American Enterprise Institute, she is somewhat transcending the traditional left-right dichotomy and is attempting to focus a discussion on human rights.

We also discussed her tone in the book. Many were impressed by the level of objectivity she was able to bring to many traumatic experiences. We tossed around a few theories about this ability, some suggested her education helped while others thought she either learned to control her emotions either to cope with the trauma or to be taken seriously in a culture where women are especially viewed as irrational and overly-emotional.

While we generally agreed that the Islam she grew up in is repressive and morally reprehensible, we failed to reach a consensus as to whether we have the right to intervene in a foreign countries internal affairs, even if human rights are being abused. We all agreed that we cannot be quiet and should criticize these practices.

After the discussion there was some talk of recording future events and making a podcast out of the discussion for others who want to hear some thoughts on these books, or at least letting portions be used in existing podcasts.

Our next book will be The Physics of Star Trek by Lawrence Krauss which we will discuss on Saturday, September 11 at The Grind Cafe again. After that we’ll do Marci McDonald’s The Armageddon Factor. The book club is tentatively scheduled for the second Saturday of the month for the foreseeable future.

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